GERALD CASALE OF DEVO

By JONATHAN DONALDSON

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1977. YOU GO INTO A WENDY'S WITH BRIAN ENO AND DAVID BOWIE. WHO WOULD YOU HAVE TO APOLOGIZE FOR MORE?

Well, if the cashier is an attractive black girl then David would have left with her. And if there are two cashiers who are bisexual girls, Brian would have left with them.

WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THIS DISNEY DEVO 2.0 THING?

I cast for a band for three months to find five kids who could sing and play. At one point, what I call the "'Disney Taliban'" takes notice and says, "Hey, send us some of the rough mixes, guys." And then they freak out! "You really can't have 'That's Good,'" they say. "''Life's a bee without a buzz/It's going great 'til you get stung'—we know what it means."

I ask them what they mean and they say, "Don't act dumb. 'Life's a 'b' without a buzz' means 'life's a bitch unless you're getting high.' And it's going great 'til you get stung' means 'you're getting away with it 'til the cops pop you.'" And I went, "'Wow?!"

YOU'VE DIRECTED RUSH'S "SUPERCONDUCTOR" VIDEO. WHAT'S NEIL PEART LIKE?

He's a survivalist who wants nothing to do with videos, thinks they're totally stupid, and just announces one day, "What I will do is set up my kit the way I set it up live, and I will play my drums the way I play them live. And if you want to put that in the video then you put that in the video. Otherwise, I'm not doing anything."

YEAH, I GOT THE IMPRESSION WHEN I WAS WATCHING THE VIDEO THAT YOU WERE NOT ALLOWED TO FUCK WITH NEIL PEART.

That is absolutely right. He'd just as soon shoot you.